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SAI General / Re: SAI + Surface Pro 4 problems....
« on: June 12, 2016, 05:01:56 AM »
Sai uses the older Wintab pressure system, supplied by the tablet manufacturer, not the newer Ink/TabletPC pressure system built into Windows that many graphics programs have changed to using.

For the Surface Pro 4, the Wintab system is a separate optional download, not part of the default setup.
You can download the Wintab support installer here:

I have heard different reports of which version you need. I thought I had installed the 64-bit version (because, hey, 64-bit Windows) on a Surface Pro 3, but that was a year or two ago and I might not be remembering correctly, I might have ended up installing the 32-bit version. I don't currently have access to that computer to check. I have seen others report that the 64-bit version did not work and they needed the 32-bit version to be compatible with Sai (a 32-bit program).

News / Re: SAI FAQ
« on: April 05, 2016, 11:47:31 AM »
The thing is that whenever I try to open the software license, I have to open it with something/app.
Nah, you need to save it, not open it.

If your web browser isn't letting you save it, you need to either:

For the sake of the little shreds of sanity to which I still cling, I prefer the second option.

News / Re: SAI FAQ
« on: April 04, 2016, 08:26:06 AM »
I have Windows 10 and it's not letting me download the software license. It's not letting me go back to Windows 7. Help please. :'(

Works fine for me in Windows 10. Check your system ID (Others menu), may have changed after upgrading to Windows 10 (will definitely have changed if you got a new computer with Windows 10 installed). License number and password should still be the same as in the email sent to you when you purchased the license. Save the license file directly into the main Sai folder.

Install and use Chrome or Firefox rather than Internet Explorer or Windows 10 Edge browser.

News / Re: Glitch maybe?? Idk
« on: April 04, 2016, 08:20:53 AM »
Every time I open SAI, it does not show the brushes/colors/layers. It is just the grey background and the bar at the top. It can open pictures but you can only use the selector tool. I have tried completely uninstalling the program and reinstalling it but it hasn't worked...

Tab key, or Window menu, Hide Command Panels (this toggles panel display on and off for more drawing room).

SAI 2 / Re: Paint tool sai 2 licensed
« on: March 07, 2016, 03:44:23 AM »
I recommend downloading the development/beta version from the official site:

Downloading it from other sources risks viruses, trojans, and other malware - apart from stealing from the one-person developer (Sai development is not a big company, it is one person, Koji Komatsu, programming in available spare time - if enough people actually purchase a license, full-time or part-time development might be possible).

I'm glad it is working for you now!
If you ever find out why it didn't work before (if it wasn't a one-off glitch or a bug), I'd be interested in hearing about it for future troubleshooting. 

Happy painting! 

Depends on whether they have included a Wintab driver.

Sai 1.x uses the older Wintab system for passing pen pressure and location on to software (from the lower-level hardware support) - this was once the only way to get pressure-sensitive support in paint softwre. The Wintab driver software is (optionally) provided by the tablet manufacturer. A lot of graphics software has changed over to using the Microsoft Ink/TabletPC system built into Windows, which is more closely integrated into Windows, mouse functions, touch functions, etc. Sai 2 beta also supports this newer system (as well as Wintab - you can select which system to use).

The newer Ink/TabletPC system and some of the Windows mouse/touch functions (long press for right click, for example) get a higher priority than Wintab system, and can interfere or steal signals before they reach the Wintab system.

Have a look in your pen/tablet software and see if there is an option (often a checkbox) to turn off support for the Ink or TabletPC system. Also, in the tablet settings, or possibly in the Windows Control Panel in the Pen & Touch app, turn off things like Pen Flicks, ripples or screen indications for touch/pen, long press for right-click, and other similar functions (if your tablet supports handwriting input, for example) that have to do with the pen but not with pressure.

Here's are some things to check, written for FireAlpaca (another paint program using the Wintab system) but also applicable to Sai: 

You can also try the software link here to see if it is updated from the software in the box.

Another thing: Try plugging in the tablet after starting Sai, that might help force a connection to the Wintab system.
And, of course, restarting your computer and then only running Sai (and no other programs) is worth trying.

When I opened it, that file was completely empty except for the line work.

As everything else was white, luminosity will not show up, as I said before.

Once I added a background layer, and a test floodfill or two, so that luminosity would have something to show up against, luminosity/overlay/screen all worked fine. They will not appear if there is no underlying layer (usually a darker layer) - if the "background" is white, as I said before.

Luminosity, overlay, and screen effects:

Could you post a sample .sai file (that shows the problem) somewhere? Zip it up and put it on Mediafire, perhaps? 

SAI General / Re: Turcom 6610 Not Working with Paint Tool Sai
« on: January 12, 2016, 01:11:03 AM »
Make sure you get the latest version of the software/driver from the Turcom site:
(Versions in the box may not have the latest bug fixes)
Always restart your computer after installing new hardware drivers.

Sai 1.x is still using the older Wintab pressure interface (supplied by the tablet manufacturer), not the newer Ink/TabletPC system built into Windows, so implementation can vary considerably between hardware manufacturers, and the two systems can interfere with each other..

Turn off the Ink/TabletPC support in the pen/tablet settings before running Sai (you may have to turn it on again for other pressure-sensitive software). I believe Turcom use Huion/Monoprice drivers, so it should be similar to this:
[Image credit: ]
Should be enough, but you might also want to restart your computer after this.

Also in Pen and Touch (Windows Control Panel) and any other pen/tablet apps, turn off pen flicks, pen writing text input, ripples on tap or other screen effects, long-press for right-click, and other potentially interfering Windows services that kidnap pen signals before they reach Sai. Also worth restarting your computer after these changes.

Is there anything below that layer?
All those blending modes make the layer beneath "lighter" or "brighter". If the only thing that is below it is white "paper" (already at maximum lightness/brightness), the effect is still white and thus ... invisible.

General / Re: CLIP STUDIO PAINT English Translation
« on: December 15, 2015, 08:42:12 AM »
Ahm, I'm quite new here so I don't know if it's ok to ask where can I download the 1.5.1 EX? I can only see the 1.4.1 on Celsys English website. Thanks :)
Celsys hasn't yet released an official English version later than 1.4.1 (cue users grumbling) - English updates usually come out some time later (and can skip some of the intermediate updates). That's why some users maintain the unofficial, and somewhat breakable, translation process that this site refers to. Take the /en off the official site address to get the up-to-date Japanese version. Could be worse - the Spanish and French versions are still on 1.3.1

SAI in English / Re: SAI not responding to Cintiq
« on: October 26, 2015, 02:35:19 PM »
Solution: With the spare change from the Cintiq, pay the US$45 for a non-stolen copy from the one-man developer (Koji Komatsu). 

General / Re: Cintiq + CLIP = Calibration issues.
« on: October 25, 2015, 01:50:18 PM »
Turn Windows Ink back on again for Clip Studio Paint / Manga Studio. 
You should be able to create an application profile for Sai in the Wacom software,  so that Windows Ink is only unticked for Sai,  but ticked for default behaviour. 

SAI in English / Re: SAI not responding to Cintiq
« on: October 25, 2015, 01:46:30 PM »
Right-click on the Sai shortcut icon,  choose Properties, go to the Compatibility tab, tick the Disable Display Scaling On High DPI Settings option.  The Sai interface (buttons and menus and whatnot) will be smaller,  but cursor tracking should be better. 
Sai 1.x doesn't know how to cope with the interface scaling of high-resolution displays,  I think that has been fixed in the Sai 2.0 beta. 

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